City Council Meeting Minutes - 7/21/08
COMMON COUNCIL
JULY 21, 2008 7:00 P.M.
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WAS GIVEN BY ALL IN ATTENDANCE.
REV. JEFF GRAMZA,
MAYOR SMALL OPENED THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMON COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL:
SANDY YORK PRESENT
ANGIE GOODMAN PRESENT
JAMES KIDD PRESENT
MARY MALONE PRESENT
LOUISE PIERCE PRESENT
VAUGHN REID PRESENT
RICHARD HAHN PRESENT
MR. SALZABRENNER GAVE AN UPDATE OF WHERE THE PROJECT IS NOW AND WHAT WILL BE DONE BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTS. HE SAID IT WILL TAKE TIME GETTING MONEY FROM INDOT. HE SAID THERE WERE A
COUNCILMAN REID ASKED ABOUT THE MATCH THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. THE ESTIMATED COST TO THE CITY.
MR. SALZBRENNER EXPLAINED THE COST INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT AND SOME OF THE COST THAT THEY ANTICIPATE THE CITY WILL HAVE. HE EXPLAINED THE SPREADSHEET THAT HAD BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL. (A COPY OF THE SPREADSHEET AND SCHEDULE ARE INCLUDED). HE SAID THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE THE ACTUAL COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH INCLUDES THE COST OF INSPECTION, DESIGN COSTS, AND RIGHT-A-WAY ACQUISITION COSTS. HE SAID THERE ARE VARIABLES IN HERE THAT WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO COST. ALL THESE NUMBERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN COSTS AT $281,472., THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE DESIGN FEES UP TO THIS POINT. IT ALL ALSO INCLUDES THE FEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION. THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE? THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WILL HAVE TO DO WITH THE ENGINEERS ESTIMATE. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION COSTS OF WHAT THE CITY PAYS TO PURCHASE THAT LAND. WE CAN ONLY MAKE A GOOD GUESS. HE SAID THAT THEY BELIEVE THE PROJECT WILL COST 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS. THE COST TO THE CITY WILL BE $704,000. THINGS CAN CHANGE. HE SAID THEY PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS IN 2005 AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD COST THE CITY 900 THOUSAND DOLLARS. NOW WE ARE CLOSER WITH OUR NUMBERS, A BETTER IDEA WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE IN THE PROJECT, WHAT THE COSTS ARE AND NOW ARE ANTICIPATING THAT IT WILL COST THE CITY SEVEN HUNDRED AND FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT.
COUNCILMAN REID ASKED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL CLEAN UP AT THE OLD TRAINER SPRINGS FACTORY. HE ASKED IF THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE COST.
MR. SALZBRENNER STATED THAT THE THINGS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS TO PREPARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. WHAT COSTS THERE WERE TO CLEAN UP THAT SITE WAS, HE DIDN'T KNOW. IF THERE ARE COSTS IS THAT CLEAN UP, THEY SHOULD BE IN THESE NUMBERS. HE WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS A COST OR NOT.
MAYOR SMALL SAID THAT THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS TRAINER SPRINGS WAS TO BE IN THE TAX
RESOLUTION: ESTABLISHING CUMULATIVE CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT FUND UNDER
PRESIDENT YORK STATED THAT THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK.
MAYOR SMALL SAID THAT THIS IS KNOWN AS THE C.C.D FUND AND WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN 1984. THIS FUND HAS BEEN USED EVERY YEAR SINCE. OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR $.05 PER $100 AND ARE NOW RECEIVING $.04 PER $100. THE DEPARTMENT OF LOCAL FINANCE ALLOWS THIS. RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN CUT BACK TO $.01 FOR $100 ASSESSED VALUATION. THAT BRINGS IN APPROXIMATELY $53,000 A YEAR, WHICH WE ARE GETTING NOW. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE A BALANCE NEED OF $278,000 IN ORDER TO BREAK GROUND NEXT YEAR ON GARNER STREET. IF WE WERE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT WE ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED OF EACH YEAR, WE NEED TO RE-ESTABLISH THIS RESOLUTION. IF WE DO
PRESIDENT YORK STATED THAT THIS IS FOR ONE YEAR ONLY?
MAYOR SMALL SAID YES, FOR ONE YEAR ONLY. IT WOULD BE FOR TAXES PAYABLE IN 2009 AND IT WOULD ALSO END IN 2009.
COUNCILMAN HAHN ASKED ABOUT STEP 7 ON PAGE 3. IF THIS IS BROUGHT UP AGAIN, TAX PAYERS WILL BE INVITED BACK AGAIN.
ROLL CALL VOTE: SEVEN VOTES AYE. PASSED AND ORDERED.
PRESIDENT YORK MADE THE MOTION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE CUMULATIVE CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT FUND AS AMENDED. COUNCILMAN HAHN: SECOND
ROLL CALL VOTE: SEVEN VOTES AYE. PASSED AND ORDERED.
RESOLUTION: TRANSFERRING FUNDS WITHIN A DEPARTMENT FROM ONE BUDGET CLASSIFICATION TO ANOTHER WAS READ IN FULL BY SANDY YORK.
PRESIDENT YORK MOVED TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION. COUNCILMAN KIDD: SECOND
ROLL CALL VOTE: SEVEN VOTES AYE. PASSED AND ORDERED.
ORDINANCE 3543-AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE VII, CHAPTER 74, SCHEDULE V OF THE NEW CASTLE CODE BY ESTABLISHING NEW SPEED LIMITS ON CERTAIN STREETS LOCATED WITH IN THE CITY WAS READ IN FULL ON FIRST
COUNCILMAN HAHN SAID HE HAD CHECKED WITH RESIDENTS LIVING
ON THE FOUR STREETS IN THE ORDINANCE,
COUNCILADY GOODMAN, CHAIRMAN OF THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE, SAID
SHE HAD PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE LIVING ON ALL FOUR OF THESE STREETS. PARKING IS DOUBLE SIDED, MAINLY ON SOUTHERN AND WESTERN. CONCERNS ARE MAINLY ABOUT SPEEDERS. THERE ARE SO MANY CHILDREN IN THIS AREA AND THE RESIDENTS WANT SOMETHING DONE. SHE SAID SHE WENT DOOR TO DOOR ON AUDUBON AND RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT OR USE SPEED BUMPS. ON AUDUBON, IT IS USED AS A PASS THROUGH FROM BUNDY AVE., TO
AFTER DISCUSSION, THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE TALKED WITH POLICE CHIEF NICHOLSON WHO TOLD US SPEED BUMPS WERE AGAINST THE LAW. HE SAID HE HAS HAD OFFICERS IN THE AREAS FOR SOME TIME. THE MAIN PROBLEM HE THOUGHT WAS THE PARKING . HE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE RATE OF SPEED BE LOWERED TO 15 OR 20 MPH. WOODLAWN AND AUDUBON AT 20MPH AND WEBSTER AND SOUTHERN AT 15 MPH.
COUNCILMAN HAHN ASKED IF THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE MADE THE SPEED LIMITS IN THIS ORDINANCE. LOWERING 25 TO 20 MPH AND 20 TO 15 MPH.
COUNCILMAN KIDD, ALSO ON THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE, SAID HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE 15 MPH. HE FELT IT WAS TO SLOW. HE SAID WE HAVE 20 MPH IN SCHOOL ZONES AND PARK AREAS.
COUNCILMAN HAHN ASKED IF THE 20 MPH AT SCHOOL AND
COUNCILMAN REID STATED THAT HE HAD GONE DOWN WEBSTER AND SOUTHERN AND ALMOST TAKEN OUT A COUPLE OF KIDS GOING 16 TO 18 MPH. HE SAID HE HAD TALKED WITH SEVERAL RESIDENTS AND ALL SAID THAT WITH AS MANY KIDS AS THERE ARE, 15 MPH IS APPROPRIATE. WE DISCUSSED 20 ON WOODLAWN AND AUBDUBON AND HE WANTED THE ORDINANCE AMENDED TO INCLUDE ST. JAMES TO THAT BECAUSE, THE THOUGHT OF THIS WAS EVEN CUT THRU MOTORIST AND WHY WE ARE HAVING ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION ON
COUNCILADY GOODMAN MADE THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS ORDINANCE FOR TONIGHT. COUNCILMAN REID: SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE: SEVEN VOTES AYE TABLED.
RON GATES, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE COMMUNITY COMMUNICATIONS AUTHORITY (CCA). HE SAID HE WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT A PROGRAM WITH
THAT ANY TIME OF THE DAY, OFFICERS CAN GO TO THE COMPUTER AND CAN LOOK AND SEE WHERE SOMEONE IS. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. WE HAVE TO PUT UP A FEW NODES AROUND THE CITY AND COUNTY AND FROM THE BRACELETS THAT THEY WEAR, NOW WATCHES, IT SENDS IT FROM THE WATCH TO THE NODE TO THE COMPUTER TO LET LAW ENFORCEMENT KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM AND NO COST TO THE CITY NOW. WHEN IT IS OVER, WE, THE CCA, WILL SIT DOWN AND SEE HOW TO DISTRIBUTE THIS MONEY, NOT PAID BY YOU GUYS, PAID BY THE CONVICTS THEMSELVES. THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING PROGRAM.
MAYOR SMALL SAID THAT THE BOARD OF WORKS HAS APPROVED THE PLACING OF TRANSPONDERS ON VARIOUS CITY STRUCTURES. THE LENGTH OF TIME WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 2 YEARS.
COUNCILMAN REID ASKED IF MR. GATES IF HE WAS REPRESENTING A GOVERNMENT AGENCY AS A FEDERAL AGENCY OR A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.
MR. GATES SAID HE WAS REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY COMMUNICATIONS AUTHORITY.
COUNCILMAN REID SAID THE QUESTIONED WAS NOT ANSWERED. HE ASKED ARE YOU A COMPANY THAT RECEIVES GOVERNMENT MONEY OR AN ACTUAL FE4DERAL GOVERNMENT AGENT.
MR. GATES SAID A STATE GOVERNMENT AGENT, OWNED BY THREE-BENEFICIARY COMMUNITIES IN
COUNCIL REPORTS:
SANDY YORK - CALL FROM RYAN
PRESIDENT YORK ASKED ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF A PRESSURE WASHER FOR THE SWIMMING POOL. MAYOR SMALL SAID THEY HAVE ONE AS OF TODAY.
COUNCILADY GOODMAN - SAID THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE HAS BEEN APPROACHED ABOUT PUTTING UP A STOP SIGN ON
MAYOR SMALL ASKED IF PHYSICALLY. HE SAID THAT SOME WERE THERE YET TODAY.
COUNCILADY GOODMAN WILL CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
COUNCILADY GOODMAN%u2026%u2026..SAID SHE HAS HAD CALLS ABOUT THE RECYCLING PLACE. HOURS WERE POSTED BUT NOT NOW.
MAYOR SMALL SAID IT WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION AND IT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. THE GATES WILL NOT BE LOCKED AGAIN. MR. YORK IS WORKING WITH THREE RIVERS AND THREE RIVERS HAS OFFERED TO PAY FOR NEW FENCING IF WE TAKE THE RECYCLING AREA AND MOVE IT DOWN THE ROAD WITH NO GATE. THE DUMPSTERS WILL BE LINED PUT SIDE BY SIDE. THERE WILL BE 6 TO 12 DUMPSTERS AT THE SITE. THERE ARE 3 PICK UP DAYS A WEEK NOW AND GOING TO 4.
COUNCILADY MALONE - INQUIRING IF SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THE WATER PARK AT THE AQUATIC CENTER, THAT IT WILL BE OPENED LATER IN THE EVENING.
MAYOR SMALL SAID YES AND NO. THE SIGN THAT WAS POSTED, EXPLAINED ABOUT WHAT GATE WAS OPENED IF THE POOL WAS OPENED OR NOT. HE SAID YOUR CONCERN WHEN SHE TALKED WITH HIM, WAS A SIGN TO PREVENT BICYCLES AND SKATEBOARDS. THAT WAS NOT ON THE SIGN.
COUNCILADY MALONE SAID SHE FELT AS THOUGH THE
SIGNS WILL BE POSTED FOR BICYCLES AND SKATEBOARDS SO THE POLICE
HAVE CONTROL.
COUNCILADY PIERCE - HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT A SKATEBOARDER WHO WAS ALMOST HIT AT TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. HOW ARE WE PROGRESSING WITH THE
MAYOR SMALL SAID THAT THE FUND RAISING FOR THE
COUNCILADY PIERCE - COMPLAINTS ABOUT VEHICLES ON SIDEWALKS. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW AND IT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED.
TRAFFIC COMMITTEE WILL CHECK THIS OUT, MAYBE REPEAL ORDINANCE.
COUNCILMAN REID - RECEIVED A CALL WANTING ACCESS TO ATTORNEY'S CONTRACT.
MAYOR SMALL SAID IT WAS AVAILABLE. THE NEW ONE WAS SIGNED LAST WEEK.
COUNCILMAN HAHN - SPEEDING ON BUNDY. GIVE INFO TO POLICE. BEST FORCE IN
COUNCILADY GOODMAN - ASKED ABOUT A TOWN MEETING.
MAYOR SMALL SAID THERE IS GOING TO BE A MEETING BUT THE SCHEDULE HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED. IT MAY BE DONE ON A WARD BY WARD BASIS. THIS WILL BE ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS WITH COUNCIL PERSON AND MAYOR TO DISCUSS WHATEVER. THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD ATTEND AT ONE TIME WITHOUT IT BEING A QUORUM.
COUNCILMAN REID - WANTS TO REVIEW RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
PRESIDENT YORK SAID WHEY COULD TRY TO GET IT DONE AT THE NEXT MEETING BUT LEGAL COUNCIL WAS ON VACATION. IF NOT AT THE NEXT MEETING, THE MEETING AFTER.
PUBLIC INPUT:
BOB RICHARDS APPEARED BEFORE THE COUNCIL ASKING ABOUT THE FRONT DOOR BEING LOCKED AND CAN'T GET IN FOR COUNCIL MEETING.
MAYOR SMALL STATED THAT THERE IS A NEW SYSTEM AND NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED.
BOB McCORMICK,
1, HE CALLED ABOUT A TREE LYING
NORMA DISHMAN STATED THAT SHE THINKS IT IS A MISTAKE TO HAVE OTHER TOWN MEETINGS. EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
PRESIDENT YORK MOVED FOR ADJOURNMENT.
COUNCILMAN HAHN: SECOND